Ukrainian players clocks during war

  

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Thibault de Vassal    (2022-02-27)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

This topic to discuss what should be done about ukrainian players clocks... Probably they do have other matter to think than to take vacation on FICGS while their country is under attack.

Garvin told me that ICCF decided to stop their clocks. What do you think?


Ilmars Cirulis    (2022-02-27 13:50:13)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

I support this idea.


Brice Boucher    (2022-02-27 14:09:41)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

we can actually see on the ICCF home page that all TDs have stopped the clocks of tournaments involving Ukrainian players,
good luck to all.


A. T. S. Broekhuizen    (2022-02-27 14:27:01)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

in favour


Stanislas Gounant    (2022-02-27 20:32:00)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

i agree


Thibault de Vassal    (2022-02-27 22:24:49)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

I identified ukrainian players in activity (one of them is still connecting), trying to contact them before.


Matt LaDuke    (2022-02-27 23:24:50)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

Agreed


Garvin Gray    (2022-02-28 13:06:22)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

I think this issue is one of those higher order issues where the responsibility is on us, or more in particular, the site owner, to protect the interests of the players who country is under attack from war.

I believe the only responsible option is for their clocks to be stopped.

The players should not have to appeal for their clocks to be stopped. Those players may not be aware of this option. And quite frankly, given what is occurring in Ukraine, they should not have to think about, 'oh, I have to contact ficgs to get my clocks stopped'.

Just stop their clocks immediately and then if a Ukrainian player contacts Thibault and says 'I do not live in Ukraine and can continue playing' then their clock can be restarted.


Thibault de Vassal    (2022-02-28 21:22:28)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

Let's do this.

Ukrainian players in activity are now in vacation for 45 days. Of course they still have 45 days of vacation remaining. Even if the war ends shortly, I think this is the least time to recover from such dramatic events. If war should last, then this special vacation could be renewed.

Consequently this topic is closed.


Daniel Parmet    (2022-03-01 18:29:43)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

Yes, stop their clocks. ICCF Stopped the clocks until April 29th. It is the right thing to do.


Daniel Parmet    (2022-03-01 18:30:21)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

Great decision. Thibault :)


Patrick DeBonis    (2022-03-07 16:51:21)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

It's only fair. They can't help it if their infrastructure is down, or if they have been called into military service. I would do the same thing in the event of a natural disaster.


Herbert Kruse    (2022-04-26 19:46:24)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

http://www.ficgs.com/user_page.php?page=viewer&game=126437

really?


Thibault de Vassal    (2022-04-26 22:50:40)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

Yes, I made that stupid mistake to mix the 60 days / move & the 100 days max accumulated time in my mind... as a consequence, even that 2nd period of 45 days vacation more for Alexey did not help. As soon as I saw that result, I added some time to his other games. I'm now working on a script that will solve this very special case for our ukrainian friends (because these dramatic circumstances may last), in other words, I'll have to shift the last move time, possibly again & again.

Of course this result will be canceled within hours, by the way I specified in terms & conditions (soon uploaded) that such human intervention like this may only happen in case of war.


Daniel Parmet    (2022-04-26 23:05:14)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

An excellent and swift reply. Thank you Thibault.


Thibault de Vassal    (2022-04-27 00:24:31)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

Actually I'm so ashamed to have made such a mistake... at least I can fix it :) ... and fortunately, this game was the only one that Alexey lost on time.


Daniel Parmet    (2022-04-27 02:15:06)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

True but mistakes happen. The true mark of character in a person is how they respond to the mistake.


Thibault de Vassal    (2022-04-27 02:35:00)
Ukrainian players clocks during war

Thank you... and thanks Herbert for having pointed it out (I could have missed it after all).

It's all fixed now (including my poker rating & Alexey's one due to that loss that shouldn't have happened), and I'll have the right tools to do it again around June 10. I'm afraid that will be necessary.