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Back to forum Thibault de Vassal (2007-04-23) Deep Fritz vs. Deep Junior http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3802 FIDE will organize a computer-computer 6-games match during the final days of the candidates match in june in Elista. The "players" : Reigning computer chess world champion Deep Junior and 'reigning world champion' Deep Fritz. Time control : 75 min + 5 sec / move, the winner will get $60,000, the loser $40,000 This match brings a few questions : No particular comment on the choice of the engines, Rybka will wait for a win in a computer chess world championship... However I can't see a real interest for FIDE and for chess in such a match. I mean 6 games of rapid computer chess.. $100,000 !? Of course it will attract a few new players - to beat computers is an attractive challenge. But at least I hope Chessbase is the main sponsor :) .. does it mean a new Deep FRitz and Deep Junior version in june ? .. I hope that the games analyzed by Rybka 2.3 won't reveal the engines too poor.. :/ .. Finally what 'title' for the winner ?! ;) Albert H. Alberts (2007-05-26 01:33:41) Deep Fritz vs. Deep Junior Thibault: Maybe the reason is that ICGA Ilyumzhinov=FIDE=ICGA=Chessbase=Fritz stage an advertisement campaign with Fritz-10 the New Ruling WC? In that case the 100 000 comes back triple. Who knows. Computer chessmen/women know that Rybka is unbeatable at the moment. Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-06 19:42:12) Game 1 Well, the first game was a draw... to be continued. Deep Junior - Deep Fritz Fritz vs Junior Match Elista, 2007 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 d5 4.d4 c6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Qc2 Bd6 7.Bd3 0-0 8.0-0 dxc4 9.Bxc4 b5 10.Bd3 Bb7 11.e4 e5 12.dxe5 Nxe5 13.Nxe5 Bxe5 14.h3 Qe7 15.Be3 Rfe8 16.Ne2 Rad8 17.Bxa7 c5 18.Bxc5 Qc7 19.Be3 Qxc2 20.Bxc2 Bxe4 21.Bxe4 Nxe4 22.Rfd1 Bxb2 23.Rxd8 Rxd8 24.Rb1 Be5 25.f4 Bc7 26.Rxb5 Rd3 27.Bd4 f6 28.h4 g6 29.a4 Ng3 30.Nxg3 Rxd4 31.Ne2 Rxa4 32.g3 1/2-1/2 Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-09 04:48:24) Nodes per second Well, game 2 was a draw, game 3 was a win for Deep Junior... "Deep Fritz is running on an eight-core machine and searching 13-14 million nodes per second, reaching a search depth of 20-21 ply. Deep Junior is employing the latest Intel Server technology with 16 cores. The program is running at 24 million nodes per second and consistantly reaching search depths of 24 ply." http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3916 Not bad in such a time control : 75 min + 10 sec per move... but does it mean anything to run two engines on two different computers !?? Michael Aigner (2007-06-10 03:10:07) Different PCs - Marketing rules! Maybe Chessbase thinks they already sold enough copies of Fritz and the market is already satisfied. Now it is time to promote another engine as the "strongest" - the plan is to to sell a lot of Junior copys - how many people own Junior yet, not a lot compared to Fritz - right? Albert H. Alberts (2007-06-25 14:48:57) Deep Fritz vs. Deep Junior FICGS: Junior won over Fritz Elista 2007. Very sharp but correct remark by M.Aigner: people that bought Fritz will now want to have Junior too the FIDE-approved champ by K. Ilyumzinov= ICGA=FIDE=CHESSBASE=FRITZ(=Junior?). However: he future champ will be the program with the best BOOK with sharp novelties. The future world tournament champ will be the one who knows/WROTE this book. It is like in cycling: you can have a great "bike" (chess engine) but to win the Tour the France you still have to peddle. That champ/novelty finder/writer/head player can be one and the same person. Great news for the sport I think.The new "Fischer" will come. Albert H.Alberts, www.howtofoolfritz.com
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